2004/09/18
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IRC [02:36] <jhavard> sometimes I really hate my job.
IRC [02:36] <jhavard> Say, like right about now
IRC [02:36] <jhavard> web server acting funky.
IRC [02:36] <jhavard> have to drive 40 minutes away to see what's up with a goddamned server.
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IRC [04:25] <jcollins> hey dossy i have a very simple example of why the adp parser in 4.x is not completely compatible with 3.5.x
IRC [04:26] <jcollins> <% set foo 1 %>
IRC [04:26] <jcollins> <if foo def>
IRC [04:26] <jcollins> <% ns_adp_puts "i'm here but you can't see me" %>
IRC [04:26] <jcollins> </if>
IRC [04:26] <jcollins> <if> tag is just any registered tag
IRC [04:29] <jcollins> this particular example is a bit contrived but you get the idea
IRC [04:30] <jcollins> line 213 in adpparse.c says it all :)
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IRC [09:48] <Dossy> jcollins: yeah -- rseeger at AOL also commented about how "I really don't like how <% %> blocks get parsed BEFORE adp tags ..."
IRC [09:48] <Dossy> was the 3.5.x behavior to parse tags first?
IRC [09:51] <Dossy> Looks like it gives equal precedence to script, registered tags and script blocks -- hmm.
IRC [10:40] <jcollins> Yeah, giving <%%> precedence is *really* uncool
IRC [11:14] <Dossy> heh
IRC [11:14] <Dossy> Mind raising it on the mailing list?
IRC [11:15] <Dossy> need to look in CVS log to see who made the change, but I'm guessing it was Jim -- wonder why he did it.
IRC [11:16] <jcollins> I looked earlier it was Jim.
IRC [11:21] <Dossy> yeah
IRC [11:22] <Dossy> It's an easy change to restore the older behavior, but I don't want to go do that unless I know Jim didn't make his change for a good reason,.
IRC [11:22] <jcollins> I hacked on the nsoracle driver some more. It's getting there. :)
IRC [11:22] <Dossy> saw that -- are you willing to be the official module owner for nsoracle/
IRC [11:22] <jcollins> Yeah, I wish the pluggable adp parser thing still existed.
IRC [11:23] <jcollins> Yeah, I thought I already was the official module owner.
IRC [11:23] <Dossy> OK, cool.
IRC [11:23] <Dossy> Well, I want to make things "official" by documenting it somewhere on the wiki --
IRC [11:23] <jcollins> Yeah, that's cool.
IRC [11:23] <Dossy> Been reading the Mozilla Roadmap (http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html) and have been inspired by a few things.
IRC [11:24] <jcollins> Yeah?
IRC [11:24] <Dossy> Mozilla module owners: http://www.mozilla.org/owners.html
IRC [11:25] <Dossy> one of the things we need to do is review and vet all of the 70+ modules for aolserver
IRC [11:25] <Dossy> I'd like to have at least one person "own" each of those modules. Any module that's orphaned should be marked as such, etc.
IRC [11:25] <jcollins> Yeah, that would be nice. Right now it feels like all the modules are orphaned.
IRC [11:25] <Dossy> Exaxctly.
IRC [11:26] <Dossy> And, some modules truly ARE orphaned.
IRC [11:26] <Dossy> So, maybe indicating as such might inspire someone to step up and own it.
IRC [11:26] <jcollins> Very possible.
IRC [11:27] <jcollins> You should make the Wiki the defacto aolserver.com page.
IRC [11:28] <Dossy> I'd like to ...
IRC [11:28] <Dossy> and also enhance the wiki to allow html markup -- but that's kinda dangerous
IRC [11:39] <jcollins> http://panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver/135
IRC [11:39] <jcollins> w00t
IRC [11:39] <Dossy> heh
IRC [11:41] <jcollins> I forgot all the cool stuff that was in 2.8
IRC [11:42] <Dossy> heh
IRC [11:42] <Dossy> did you just put together that page?
IRC [11:42] <jcollins> the page was there i just added to it
IRC [11:43] <Dossy> might want to stick in "module owner:" and your name or somesuch :)
IRC [11:43] <jcollins> ;)
IRC [11:43] <Dossy> ok, going to go and get stuff done around the house ...
IRC [13:52] <jcollins> I guess the simple work-around to the <% %> problem is to use <script></script> tags.
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IRC [19:44] <jhavard> hoorah, I'm going home now.
IRC [19:44] <jhavard> 1) fuck sun
IRC [19:44] <jhavard> 2) fuck compaq
IRC [19:44] <jhavard> 3) fuck solaris on compaq stuff
IRC [19:46] <jhavard> Yeah, nothing like spending all of saturday at the office thanks to compaq hardware decaying into uselessness and sun's stupidity on device naming
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