2004/07/22
IRC [02:52] <Dossy> google for #aolserver
IRC [02:52] <Dossy> google for aolserver chat ic
IRC [02:52] <Dossy> google for aolserver chat irc
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IRC [06:25] <Dossy> hey frankie.
IRC [07:06] <frankie> Dossy: hi dossy
IRC [07:07] * frankie redundant
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IRC [09:02] <Dossy> morning, leff
IRC [09:03] <leff> morning, Dossy.
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IRC [12:48] <jhavard> *drool*
IRC [12:48] <jhavard> I love trade out deals
IRC [12:48] <jhavard> especially deals that involve pizza
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IRC [14:32] <Dossy> woohoo
IRC [14:33] <Dossy> i have a built aolserver 4.1.0 for win32.
IRC [14:33] <Dossy> time for a smoke.
IRC [14:40] <Dossy> server1:nscp 15> ns_info platform
IRC [14:40] <Dossy> win32
IRC [14:40] <Dossy> server1:nscp 16> ns_info patchlevel
IRC [14:40] <Dossy> 4.1.0
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IRC [14:47] * thecodemill|aol is logging
IRC [14:47] <bartt> Haha, http://opennsd.org has changed
IRC [14:51] <Dossy> someone's still got opennsd.org?
IRC [14:56] <bartt> Apparently.
IRC [14:56] <bartt> I was reminded of the URL when I found a reference in some code.
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IRC [16:59] <Dossy> Downloads: http://panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver/1331
IRC [17:00] <Dossy> time to go home!
IRC [17:00] <tekbasse> wait! =) aolserver 3.4.2, nsopenssl still occasionaly crashes withassertion "md_c[1] == md_count[1]" failed: file "/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/rand/md_rand.c", line 312
IRC [17:00] <tekbasse> any suggestions on how to track it down?
IRC [17:01] <tekbasse> it = cause
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IRC [17:07] <bartt> tekbasse: Why use aolserver 3.4.2?
IRC [17:07] <bartt> Why not a more recent 3.x version, or better still 4.x?
IRC [17:07] <tekbasse> I'd use aolserver4, but doesn't that require openacs5.x
IRC [17:07] <tekbasse> ?
IRC [17:08] <bartt> Oh no!
IRC [17:08] <bartt> And OpenACS 5.x doesn't require AOLserver 4.x either.
IRC [17:08] * tekbasse needs to check the openacs compatibility chart again
IRC [17:09] <bartt> I'm running OpenACS 4.6 on AOLserver 4.x
IRC [17:10] <tekbasse> oh, really!?! Good news for me. I should be able to just switch servers without any openacs related config changes, right?
IRC [17:13] <tekbasse> ie can still use postgres7.2?
IRC [17:13] <tekbasse> I'll ask on #openacs
IRC [17:48] <bartt> Yes, you can.
IRC [18:14] <jhavard> man, a spider just dropped down on a strand of silk beside me.
IRC [18:15] <jhavard> from the ceiling
IRC [18:16] <jhavard> Figured I'd be nice and let it hang off my torchier
IRC [18:17] <jhavard> tons of tiny bugs flock to it already.
IRC [20:07] <Dossy> tekbasse: you still there?
IRC [20:07] <Dossy> is your openssl issue a non-issue now?
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IRC [20:27] <tekbasse> Dossy, its a non issue now (switching to aolserver4.x). thanks.
IRC [20:45] <Dossy> Cool!
IRC [20:45] <Dossy> yay.
IRC [21:46] <jhavard> Hrm, should I spend the weekend drinking or making a miserable attempt at a cms when some big company will probably release something totally awesome two days after I get something beautiful done.
IRC [21:49] <bartt> drink beautifully
IRC [21:51] <Dossy> heh
IRC [21:51] <Dossy> jhavard, don't bother implmeenting a CMS today ..
IRC [21:52] <Dossy> help me test the win32 build :_
IRC [21:52] <Dossy> er :)
IRC [21:52] <Dossy> i'm about to do some benchmarking ...
IRC [22:14] <jhavard> how may I be of service?
IRC [22:14] <Dossy> heh
IRC [22:14] <Dossy> you play with aolserver on win32 much? :)
IRC [22:15] <jhavard> Not really.
IRC [22:15] <jhavard> a.k.a. never
IRC [22:16] <jhavard> although it just so happens I'm on an xp machine at this very moment.
IRC [22:27] <jhavard> I need a quick adp page
IRC [22:28] <Dossy> heh
IRC [22:28] <Dossy> what do you need?
IRC [22:32] <jhavard> just something to exercise it
IRC [22:34] <jhavard> and show what platform it runs on...
IRC [22:36] <Dossy> interesting ...
IRC [22:36] <Dossy> if i put the number of concurrent connections >5, aolserver fails connections
IRC [22:36] <Dossy> wonder if this is some funky WinXP network config issue
IRC [22:36] <jhavard> http://mihoshi.sevensages.org/
IRC [22:36] <Dossy> heh
IRC [22:36] <Dossy> you download the binary?
IRC [22:36] <jhavard> yeah
IRC [22:37] <Dossy> ugh
IRC [22:37] <Dossy> wish i could send you a test adp
IRC [22:37] <jhavard> and as for the five connection thing, could it be the crazy microsoft "this is a client os. no more connections for you" thing?
IRC [22:37] <Dossy> http://aolserver.com/files/test-win32.adp
IRC [22:37] <Dossy> oh, maybe i should have named it .txt :)
IRC [22:37] <jhavard> unfortunately, I seem to have destroyed the two modules I worked on
IRC [22:38] <Dossy> http://aolserver.com/files/test-win32.adp.txt
IRC [22:38] <Dossy> jhavard: yeah, that's what I'm thinking. my machine is winxp home :)
IRC [22:39] <Dossy> Concurrency Level: 5
IRC [22:39] <Dossy> Time taken for tests: 2.386 seconds
IRC [22:39] <Dossy> Complete requests: 1000
IRC [22:39] <Dossy> Requests per second: 419.11 [#/sec] (mean)
IRC [22:39] <Dossy> Time per request: 11.93 [ms] (mean)
IRC [22:40] <Dossy> not bad. a 300 byte response at 419 req/sec
IRC [22:40] <Dossy> with concurrency cranked down to *5*
IRC [22:40] <Dossy> let me try a fatter response of randomly generated data
IRC [22:41] <Dossy> Document Length: 50003 bytes
IRC [22:41] <Dossy> Concurrency Level: 5
IRC [22:41] <Dossy> Time taken for tests: 7.559 seconds
IRC [22:41] <Dossy> Complete requests: 1000
IRC [22:41] <Dossy> Total transferred: 50240190 bytes
IRC [22:41] <Dossy> HTML transferred: 50053003 bytes
IRC [22:41] <Dossy> Requests per second: 132.29 [#/sec] (mean)
IRC [22:41] <Dossy> Time per request: 37.80 [ms] (mean)
IRC [22:42] <jhavard> wow, I got 622/sec on this machine
IRC [22:42] <Dossy> still, ~100 req/sec with concurrency=5 still pounds other webservers in the ass I bet
IRC [22:42] <jhavard> yeah
IRC [22:42] <Dossy> jhavard: you using apachebench?
IRC [22:42] <jhavard> ablite
IRC [22:42] <Dossy> wonder what's the diff
IRC [22:43] <Dossy> what are you using for -n and -c
IRC [22:43] <Dossy> i set -n 1000
IRC [22:43] <Dossy> -c 5
IRC [22:43] <Dossy> you should try my 50k.adp test:
IRC [22:43] <jhavard> ./ablite -n 10000 -c 5 http://
IRC [22:43] <Dossy> echo "<% ns_adp_puts [string repeat x 50000] %>" > 50k.adp
IRC [22:43] <jhavard> and my freebsd machine can do 1861/sec
IRC [22:43] <Dossy> hee hee :)
IRC [22:44] <Dossy> 1800 req/sec. isn't that gorgeous?
IRC [22:44] <Dossy> got apache?
IRC [22:44] <Dossy> like to see a comparison :)
IRC [22:44] * jhavard is now having sex with his freebsd machine
IRC [22:44] <Dossy> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;328459
IRC [22:44] <jhavard> let me see what apache can do
IRC [22:46] <Dossy> "Computers that run Windows XP Home Edition are licensed for a maximum of 5 concurrent client incoming sessions."
IRC [22:46] <Dossy> BOGUS
IRC [22:46] <Dossy> :(
IRC [22:46] <Dossy> "Computers that run Windows NT Workstation 4.0, Windows 2000 Professional, and Windows XP Professional are licensed for a maximum of 10 concurrent client incoming sessions. "
IRC [22:46] <Dossy> So, this is how they force you to pay extra for their "Server" product. :)
IRC [22:46] <jhavard> yep
IRC [22:46] <jhavard> software limits
IRC [22:47] <jhavard> the only difference between 2000 pro and 2000 server were three things
IRC [22:47] <jhavard> 1) one said "server", one said "pro"
IRC [22:48] <jhavard> 2) one had "optimize for background / interactive stuff" set in the middle, the othe was all the way on interactive
IRC [22:48] <jhavard> 3) one had a registry key limiting incoming connections, the other did not
IRC [22:49] <Dossy> ooh
IRC [22:49] <Dossy> can i pull the registry key???
IRC [22:49] <Dossy> like pulling the tag off a mattress? will it void my warranty? :P
IRC [22:49] <jhavard> although I could have sworn those limits didn't apply when you used non-microsoft crap
IRC [22:49] <jhavard> it'll violate the dmca, probably.
IRC [22:50] <jhavard> and I have no idea what to change.
IRC [22:50] <Dossy> oh. rats.
IRC [22:51] <jhavard> from what I was told, it was quite unobvious.
IRC [22:54] <jhavard> I'm going to be worthless in a few moments.
IRC [22:54] <jhavard> took a cough syrup that contains hydrocodone.
IRC [22:54] <jhavard> actually, it doesn't knock me out.
IRC [22:55] <jhavard> it just makes me highly focused on whatever I'm doing.
IRC [22:55] <jhavard> and tonight I feel like sleeping.
IRC [22:58] <Dossy> think I found the registry key
IRC [22:58] <Dossy> hey talli :)
IRC [23:05] <Dossy> well, that's not the key. :(