2004/08/19
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IRC [01:43] <Dossy> hachi: can't use two disks, huh?
IRC [01:43] <Dossy> oops, wrong window :P
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IRC [09:43] <jhavard> morning all
IRC [09:54] <jcollins> morning (an hr late)
IRC [09:55] <jcollins> er, maybe not
IRC [09:55] <jcollins> i think the clock on my computer is wrong
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IRC [11:25] <jhavard> dossy, would it be possible to get a recent snapshot of cvs head? Unless there hasn't been any change since 8/11
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IRC [14:08] <Dossy> there's been some.
IRC [14:08] <Dossy> yeah, i should automate a nightly cvs source tarball shouldn't I
IRC [14:29] <jhavard> Especially with anoncvs being broken at the moment
IRC [14:32] <Dossy> rolling a tarball now.
IRC [14:34] <jhavard> many thanks
IRC [14:39] <Dossy> http://aolserver.com/files/aolserver-4.1.0a-20040819-src.tar.gz
IRC [14:39] <Dossy> maybe i can automate a nightly roll of aolserver-HEAD-src.tar.gz --
IRC [14:44] <Dossy> OK, automated ... :)
IRC [14:44] <Dossy> http://aolserver.com/files/aolserver-HEAD-src.tar.gz
IRC [14:46] <jhavard> the last url posted is a 404 (hasn't run yet? Relying on broken cron on sf machines?)
IRC [14:46] <jhavard> thanks, though.
IRC [14:46] <jhavard> quite a few changes, quite a few for win32
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IRC [14:48] <Dossy> which URL?
IRC [14:48] <Dossy> the aolserver-HEAD-src.tar.gz ?
IRC [14:52] <Dossy> I've renamed the file
IRC [14:52] <Dossy> I'd like a datestamp in the tarfile, but oh well.
IRC [14:52] <Dossy> actually, I can do it. cool.
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IRC [14:59] <Dossy> Oh, joy. SourceForge shell servers cron is busted. :(
IRC [15:08] <jhavard> yep
IRC [15:17] * jhavard works on figuring out tdom and tdav
IRC [15:18] <Dossy> heh
IRC [15:20] <jhavard> atleast there's documentation for tdom.
IRC [15:20] <jhavard> tdav is more like "here it is!"
IRC [15:21] <Dossy> yup :)
IRC [15:21] <jhavard> maybe if I get pissed just a tiny bit more I'll start writing docs on my own.
IRC [15:22] <Dossy> zYes, please do!
IRC [15:22] <Dossy> feel free to use the wiki!
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IRC [16:17] <jhavard> I believe I will write.
IRC [16:17] <jhavard> nsperm still needing documentation?
IRC [16:20] <iharding> Ha. You said n-sperm
IRC [16:20] <iharding> I just used nsperm for the first time and found it not too tough to figure
IRC [16:20] <jhavard> nsperminate the server
IRC [16:21] <jhavard> iharding, have any notes?
IRC [16:21] <iharding> But don't know why I need users "" and nsadmin
IRC [16:21] <iharding> And there is no such thing as bin/nspasswd or whatever the docs say.
IRC [16:22] <iharding> I used htpasswd.
IRC [16:22] <jhavard> I have a php script that I whipped up to do that sort of thing
IRC [16:22] <jhavard> generates a random salt and everything
IRC [16:22] <iharding> But then I'd need php.8^P
IRC [16:30] <jhavard> I'd say you need to submit lack of nspasswd as a bug (although I thought there was a tcl command called that or something)
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IRC [16:32] <jhavard> ns_permpasswd
IRC [16:34] <GizmoBeastLives> ns_crypt works
IRC [16:34] <jhavard> maybe that's what I was trying to think of
IRC [16:37] <iharding> You can create a password by typing "ns_crypt mypasswd salt".
IRC [16:37] <iharding> no ns_crypt in /home/iharding/bin /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/pkg/bin /usr/pkg/sbin /usr/games /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin
IRC [16:38] <jhavard> try that on the nscp port...
IRC [16:38] <iharding> Oh. I don't use that.
IRC [16:38] <jhavard> or in a script
IRC [16:39] <iharding> There is someplace in the docs where it specifically says "bin/ns_crypt"
IRC [16:39] <iharding> Oh well, we know the docs are a bit crufty.
IRC [16:39] <jhavard> yeah
IRC [16:40] <jhavard> which I guess will be my project or something.
IRC [16:40] <iharding> Nobody likes my project <sniff>
IRC [16:40] <jhavard> you're working on something?
IRC [16:40] <iharding> pkgsrc packages for aolserver.
IRC [16:41] <iharding> I am excited about it since I use NetBSD and solaris and I can have teh same package system on both
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IRC [17:09] <iharding> How else are you going to get AOLServer on your VAX?
IRC [17:09] <iharding> Your playstation?
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IRC [19:40] <jhavard> aolserver on vax?
IRC [19:40] <jhavard> hrm.
IRC [19:40] <jhavard> If I had the time right now, I'd try it tonight.
IRC [19:43] <jhavard> is there any way to use -options with tcl procs?
IRC [19:54] <GizmoBeastLives> there's no built-in switch processing, OpenACS has support built into ad_proc
IRC [20:45] <jhavard> thanks.
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IRC [23:15] <Dossy> Evening everyone.
IRC [23:44] <jhavard> evening
IRC [23:46] <jhavard> I was about to ask a question about tcl, but I found what I need.
IRC [23:46] <Dossy> cool.
IRC [23:48] <jhavard> And that thing was, "how do I find out if a proc exists"
IRC [23:48] <jhavard> the answer is [info procs procname]