2005/03/01
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IRC [17:22] <siddfinch> ugh *grr*, I hate teleconfernces
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IRC [17:28] <Dossy> ha
IRC [17:29] <Dossy> why? god bless the "mute" button :)
IRC [17:32] <siddfinch> well, when it is currently on hour 5 ...
IRC [17:35] <cbowman> outside vendors?
IRC [17:35] <siddfinch> No ... ``monthly re-evaluation and go-forward meeting''
IRC [17:36] <siddfinch> it is the monthly time for people that like to hear their voice
IRC [17:36] <cbowman> sales?
IRC [17:37] <siddfinch> Nope ...
IRC [17:37] <siddfinch> I consult for IBM, dealing with customers
IRC [17:38] <jcdldn> so I am trying to get ttrace working with openacs. It sure doesn't right now.
IRC [17:38] <Dossy> jcdldn: Try emailing Zoran. He used to hang out in the chat for a few days here and there, but I haven't seen him in ages.
IRC [17:39] <jcdldn> startup right now has taken 20 minutes so far and it's about 1/2 way
IRC [17:39] <Dossy> *20 minutes*? yow.
IRC [17:39] <jcdldn> Yeah, I have been in touch with hi,
IRC [17:39] <jcdldn> him
IRC [17:39] <jcdldn> yeah, something clearly is broken somewhere but it's hard to tell what.
IRC [17:41] <jcdldn> oh, it finally finished starting. still broken though.
IRC [17:42] <jcdldn> It does not seem like it's just openacs since I get this:
IRC [17:42] <jcdldn> [01/Mar/2005:22:46:19][17631.229391][-sched:13-] Error: invalid command name "ns_cleanupchans"
IRC [17:42] <jcdldn> invalid command name "ns_cleanupchans"
IRC [17:42] <jcdldn> while executing
IRC [17:42] <jcdldn> "ns_cleanupchans"
IRC [17:42] <jcdldn> (procedure "ns_cleanup" line 5)
IRC [17:42] <jcdldn> invoked from within
IRC [17:42] <jcdldn> "ns_cleanup"
IRC [17:43] <jcdldn> and clearly that is defined the same way it always is for aolserver.
IRC [17:43] <Dossy> nod
IRC [17:44] <Dossy> cbowman: Working on a Purify build now.
IRC [17:44] <Dossy> apparently, we have: PurifyPlus-2003a.06.13.FixPack.0148-1
IRC [17:51] <cbowman> It doesn't look like we have a FixPack applied to ours...
IRC [17:54] <jcdldn> It looks like the reason it was so slow was that I called ttrace::enable even though it was already enabled.
IRC [17:54] <jcdldn> why that made it so fantasticly slow -- I don't knwo
IRC [17:54] <Dossy> cbowman: Lets see what joy I can evoke using this. :-)
IRC [17:55] <Dossy> jcdldn: Beats me. :-)
IRC [17:57] <cbowman> Dossy: It's not easy but I think you've got enough information to do it.
IRC [18:00] <Dossy> What you don't realize is the pain I go through to produce builds at AOL ...
IRC [18:03] <cbowman> I probably have a fairly good grasp from my own dealings.
IRC [18:03] <cbowman> welp, I'm out for now.
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IRC [18:11] <jcdldn> Dossy: it looks like ttrace::getscript produces a script with syntax errors.
IRC [18:12] <jcdldn> it takes: variable substExpr "\}\n{\\2} {\\1} {\\3} \{"
IRC [18:13] <jcdldn> and produces:
IRC [18:13] <jcdldn> ::namespace eval ::xml {
IRC [18:13] <jcdldn> ::variable substExpr {}
IRC [18:13] <jcdldn> {\2} {\1} {\3} {}
IRC [18:13] <jcdldn> }
IRC [18:31] <Dossy> jcdldn: Ouch. Good luck. :-)
IRC [19:45] <Dossy> Argh, this memory leak in Firefox is really annoying.
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IRC [20:25] <Dossy> I'm finally rewriting the entire build machinery for producing AOLserver builds at AOL. Whee.
IRC [20:26] <Dossy> Or at least, the collection of Makefile magic that we use. Not the actual build infrastructure, but our build rules, essentially.
IRC [20:26] <Dossy> fearsome.
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