2005/04/03
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IRC [09:16] <olafm> Hi
IRC [09:29] <olafm> /conf
IRC [09:29] <olafm> /conf
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IRC [09:43] <Dossy> rats. missed again.
IRC [09:43] <Dossy> Wish Olaf would at least idle so I could respond. :-)
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IRC [10:05] <Dossy> olafm: You going to stick around this time?
IRC [10:05] <olafm> Sure :)
IRC [10:05] <Dossy> What's up?
IRC [10:06] <olafm> I compiled AOLserver 4.0.10 with gcc under Solaris, installed it and it runs fine.
IRC [10:06] <olafm> As soon as I install any nsdb driver (tried nssqlite2, nsmysql and nspostgres) it bails on me during startup with a SIGSEGV in nsdb
IRC [10:08] <olafm> The actual segfault is in libtcl8.4 in HashStringKey called from NsDbInitServer
IRC [10:09] <Dossy> did you build a threaded Tcl?
IRC [10:09] <Dossy> and, when you run aolserver, are you sure you're actually getting your threaded Tcl vs. another Tcl already installed?
IRC [10:09] <Dossy> oh, sounds like your config is wrong --
IRC [10:10] <Dossy> although getting a segv is unusual - you should get a sensible error instead.
IRC [10:10] <olafm> Yeah, at leats ldd and ::objects shows the right libtcl.so
IRC [10:10] <Dossy> email me (dossy@panoptic.com) your config .tcl script, and the output of "ldd bin/nsd"
IRC [10:10] <Dossy> oh it does?
IRC [10:10] <Dossy> libtcl84g.so ?
IRC [10:10] <Dossy> or libtcl8.4.so
IRC [10:11] <olafm> ff200000 ff2a8000 a8000 /usr/local/aolserver-4.0.10/lib/libtcl8.4.so
IRC [10:11] <Dossy> OK.
IRC [10:11] <olafm> Straight from mdb.
IRC [10:11] <Dossy> Cool.
IRC [10:11] <olafm> Do you want just the main config.tcl or all virtual servers also?
IRC [10:11] <Dossy> Then, send me a copy of your config .tcl and I'll see if I can see anything immediately wrong.
IRC [10:11] <Dossy> everything that you're using.
IRC [10:11] <Dossy> bbl
IRC [10:11] <olafm> oki
IRC [10:25] <olafm> Mail sent.
IRC [10:50] <Dossy> oh, no surprise.
IRC [10:50] <olafm> Huh?
IRC [10:50] <Dossy> you're loading nsdb in ns/modules - can't do that. nsdb must be loaded per server that's going to have nsdb.
IRC [10:50] <olafm> Oh. Let me try that.
IRC [10:51] * Dossy nods.
IRC [10:51] <Dossy> nsdb needs to be "fixed" to test for this and refuse to load
IRC [10:52] <Dossy> and log an error
IRC [10:52] <Dossy> instead of this very useless segv behavior :)
IRC [10:52] <olafm> W00t, it works. Thanks.
IRC [10:53] <olafm> Want me to add a note about this to the wiki?
IRC [11:07] <Dossy> Either that, or file it as a bug at SF.
IRC [11:08] <Dossy> Did you just add the note to the wiki? http://panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver/nsdb
IRC [11:08] <olafm> Just added it to the wiki. I'll file a bug in SF later.
IRC [11:08] <Dossy> Cool.
IRC [11:13] <olafm> What should I file it against? Server or Database?
IRC [11:26] <Dossy> database
IRC [11:26] <Dossy> thanks!
IRC [11:28] <olafm> Done.
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IRC [11:45] <Dossy> thanks!
IRC [11:45] <Dossy> oop.
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IRC [19:23] <walnuck> hi
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IRC [20:33] <Dossy> yay, someone spammed the wiki.
IRC [20:33] <Dossy> luckily, someone else already removed it :-)
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IRC [21:05] <rubick> Is there an easy way to have Aolserver listen on both port 80 and 8002 for http at the same time?
IRC [21:08] <rubick> answered on #openacs
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IRC [21:17] <Dossy> yeah, load nssock twice :-)
IRC [21:17] <Dossy> ugh, time to do 2004 taxes.
IRC [21:27] <rubick> God, Aolserver rocks. :)
IRC [21:27] <rubick> That was easy.
IRC [21:32] <Dossy> heh
IRC [21:32] <Dossy> yeah, all this noise about "AOLserver config. needs to be easier" makes me scratch my head.
IRC [21:39] <Dossy> wow, how I hate Acrobat Reader.
IRC [21:42] <holycow> have you tried version 7?
IRC [21:42] <holycow> they do have a linux version somewhere
IRC [21:48] <Dossy> I'm downloading version 7 for win32 now.
IRC [21:48] <Dossy> 12.9 MB of bloatware for the "lite" version without all the crap doodads like adobe photo album, tec.
IRC [21:48] <Dossy> er, etc.
IRC [21:48] <Dossy> it's a goddamn text renderer, for chrissakes.
IRC [21:48] <Dossy> wtf is wrong with "less" or "cat" -- grr.
IRC [21:48] <Dossy> "yes, I need to represent a single letter that can be represented in 7 bits using a few THOUSAND bytes in a PDF."
IRC [21:49] <Dossy> a PDF is nothing more than glorified PostScript. Ghostview isn't as much of a pig as Acrobat Reader.
IRC [21:49] <Dossy> sorry. rant done. ;-
IRC [21:49] <Dossy> :-)
IRC [21:57] <holycow> Dossy, i don't disagree with you
IRC [21:57] <holycow> infact its a great example of why i dread the coming of commercial software to linux
IRC [21:57] <holycow> they will fucking polute the shit out of the environment
IRC [21:58] <holycow> just check out the spyware/spam embedded in the fucking app at the top
IRC [21:58] <holycow> but for the time being it's the only one with a good search function on linux so ....
IRC [21:59] <rubick> I think things can always be easier :)
IRC [22:00] <rubick> But yes, Aolserver is fairly easy and well-documented.
IRC [22:12] <Dossy> holycow: pdf2text, and grep.
IRC [22:12] <Dossy> it's *text* for chrissakes.
IRC [22:13] <Dossy> what AOLserver needs is a "Learn AOLserver in 24 Hours" books.
IRC [22:13] <Dossy> heh.
IRC [22:13] <Dossy> crap, browser died.
IRC [22:13] <Dossy> (just rebooted.)
IRC [22:13] <Dossy> doing taxes = not fun.
IRC [22:14] <Dossy> calculating your cost basis for capital gains = not fun.
IRC [22:15] <Dossy> I wish all banks/etc. sent one fat year-end transaction history snailmail.
IRC [22:15] <Dossy> or CSV-format email :-)
IRC [22:17] <Dossy> OMFG. stupid.
IRC [22:18] <Dossy> Fleet/Bank of America's web banking only lets you download 90 days worth of account activity in one shot.
IRC [22:18] <Dossy> Well, if you want to download the 4 quarters of the year, Q3 runs 7/1-9/30 ... that's 91 days. It complains. LAME.
IRC [22:18] <Dossy> So, I download 7/1-9/29, and 9/30 separately.
IRC [22:19] <Dossy> wow, same for 10/1-12/31
IRC [22:49] <holycow> well its not text really
IRC [22:49] <holycow> its 'structured' text
IRC [22:49] <holycow> or more specifically 'laid out' text
IRC [22:50] <holycow> if it was just text it would be an ascii file :)
IRC [22:50] <holycow> there is no point to using pdf beyond the 'layout' variable
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IRC [23:02] <Dossy> HTML is "laid out text" and it's just an ASCII file.