2005/10/18
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IRC [09:20] <martinh> [to Dossy]: how about a framework written in xotcl with a parallel stooop api?
IRC [09:29] <martinh> at least a simplified one.
IRC [10:01] <Dossy> framework to do what?
IRC [10:02] <martinh> the one we were talking about yesterday. . .something ruby on rails like.
IRC [13:27] <Dossy> oh. yeah - it may be coming :)
IRC [13:27] <Dossy> I have a project that might cause it to be developed.
IRC [13:27] <Dossy> but I'm going to try and limit to stooop
IRC [13:55] <Dossy> lilo: Freenode might be my motivator for finally developing an AOLserver app framework (ala Rails, etc.)
IRC [13:55] <Dossy> oops, w/w.
IRC [14:12] <martinh> well, mat and I are doing one based on xotcl anyway. . .it seems to be the most fully functional oop environment around. . .I can wrap a basic stooop api around it though.
IRC [14:16] <Dossy> cool
IRC [14:36] <Dossy> how far have you and mat gotten?
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IRC [15:11] <lilo> hi all
IRC [15:11] <lilo> Dossy: what email address should I use to cc: you on correspondence?
IRC [15:13] <Dossy> lilo: dossy@panoptic.com
IRC [15:13] <lilo> Dossy: cool
IRC [15:13] <Dossy> Hm. Topic went away.
IRC [15:13] <lilo> might want to cs set #aolserver guard on
IRC [15:14] <Dossy> i'm going to
IRC [15:14] <lilo> if you want I'll set +P on the channel (quasi-permanent mode)
IRC [15:14] <lilo> that should help some too
IRC [15:14] <Dossy> no worries, really.
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IRC [15:16] <Dossy> Hmm, not sure if we really need ChanServ.
IRC [15:16] <lilo> well, I can set it if you want, it takes a freenode staffer to set and the mode can help if there are splits---that can be more of a problem on small channels
IRC [15:16] <lilo> (+P)
IRC [15:17] <lilo> (definitely recommended)
IRC [15:17] <Dossy> Hmm - is having cs guard a requirement?
IRC [15:17] <lilo> no, not a requirement
IRC [15:17] <Dossy> ah, then yes - please :)
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IRC [15:17] <Dossy> ah, don't need to be paranoid.
IRC [15:18] <lilo> chanserv will make sure +P stays on; but +P itself will keep the channel up even if there are no users
IRC [15:18] <lilo> thanks!
IRC [15:18] <Dossy> ah, that's cool.
IRC [15:18] <lilo> if the channel gets larger you may need +t
IRC [15:18] <Dossy> yeah.
IRC [15:18] <lilo> let's try to arrange things so you need +t :)
IRC [15:19] <Dossy> Exactly.
IRC [15:19] <Dossy> So, for folks who are curious, lilo is the person behind Freenode, the IRC network we're on.
IRC [15:19] <Dossy> I've offered to help out with a project he's starting, to build some infrastructure for Freenode, using AOLserver.
IRC [15:20] <Dossy> Maybe some other folks might be interested in contributing or at least following along, so I thought bringing some discussion about it here could get some extra feedback from folks here.
IRC [15:25] <lilo> Dossy: tigert asked for a bit of information on freenode-registry and I'm composing a note to him now
IRC [15:28] <lilo> it's another opportunity to think through the specifics; nothing's as helpful in solidifying one's concept as explaining it to someone else :)
IRC [15:28] <Dossy> yeah
IRC [15:28] <Dossy> And having a UI mock might really help.
IRC [15:29] <Dossy> A simple drawing on a whiteboard that says "pretend the app. was done -- this is what the UI might look like"
IRC [15:34] * lilo nods
IRC [15:39] <lilo> I'm going to disappear in a bit to go pick up my son, but I should be around most of the afternoon, punctuated by sudden demands on my time from a six-year-old :)
IRC [15:50] <Dossy> If folks are interested in contributing to the AOLserver Wiki, a good way to do it is to hit this URL: http://panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver/Special:Random
IRC [15:51] <Dossy> Go to a random page, see if there's something missing that you can add, or a mistake you can correct, etc. And, go and click "edit" in the top nav and do it. :)
IRC [17:06] <lilo> Dossy: did you get that email?
IRC [17:44] <Dossy> lilo: Yes.
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IRC [18:33] <lilo> hi bartt
IRC [18:35] <bartt> hi lilo
IRC [21:16] <lilo> rats, I have to assume Dossy has a life :)
IRC [21:17] <Dossy> :)
IRC [21:17] <Dossy> Periodically, yeah.
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