2007/03/13
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IRC [16:58] <shemale_suprise> hey anyone alive?
IRC [16:59] <shemale_suprise> I got 4.5 up n running seems blazingly fast
IRC [16:59] <shemale_suprise> wrote (copied and modified) my first adp page
IRC [16:59] <shemale_suprise> :)
IRC [16:59] <shemale_suprise> damn it I rule
IRC [17:02] <Dossy> Great.
IRC [17:02] <Dossy> Please stop trolling.
IRC [17:05] <partymola> lol?
IRC [17:09] <shemale_suprise> IM excited IM not trolling
IRC [17:13] <partymola> shemale_suprise: excuse Dossy, he's having Aunt Irma visit... lol
IRC [17:13] <Dossy> :)
IRC [17:14] <Dossy> Seriously depressed.
IRC [17:14] <partymola> really? :S
IRC [17:14] <Dossy> yeah.
IRC [17:14] <partymola> personal issues?
IRC [17:15] <partymola> if it's not computer ones, i am afraid i can't help xD
IRC [17:16] <Dossy> I'm sick of dealing with stupid people.
IRC [17:17] <Dossy> I mean, genuinely stupid people. People who can't figure even the simplest things out;
IRC [17:17] <Dossy> I'm tired of being lonely.
IRC [17:17] <Dossy> (I'm married with kids--I don't mean *that* kind of "lonely"--I mean professionally lonely.)
IRC [17:19] <shemale_suprise> Well you could goto the mall.
IRC [17:20] <Dossy> With automatic weapons?
IRC [17:20] <shemale_suprise> or join a chess club
IRC [17:20] <shemale_suprise> ok help me mentor me
IRC [17:20] <shemale_suprise> I am a linux admin who wants to learn how to make computers do something.
IRC [17:20] <Dossy> Why?
IRC [17:20] <shemale_suprise> I saw the tcl has great oracle support, and aolserver is powerful.
IRC [17:20] <shemale_suprise> For fun and profit and to get the babes.
IRC [17:21] <shemale_suprise> Plus because I can't do it so it intrigues me.
IRC [17:21] <Dossy> Seriously, do you really care?
IRC [17:21] <Dossy> Do you skydive?
IRC [17:21] <shemale_suprise> You sound like you need a divorce, no offense, you life sounds dim.
IRC [17:21] <shemale_suprise> Are you getting laid?
IRC [17:21] <Dossy> Yes.
IRC [17:21] <Dossy> I have *2* kids.
IRC [17:21] <shemale_suprise> So whats the problem.
IRC [17:22] <shemale_suprise> Are you bored?
IRC [17:22] <Dossy> Yes.
IRC [17:22] <shemale_suprise> Write a book. Explain and train the ignorant liek me.
IRC [17:22] <shemale_suprise> Welsh book sucks.
IRC [17:22] <shemale_suprise> (sorry if your matt)
IRC [17:22] <Dossy> I thought about writing a book. For the past few years, I keep trying to motivate to do it.
IRC [17:22] <Dossy> But, like I said, I'm sick and tired of dealing with the bottom 10%.
IRC [17:22] <shemale_suprise> do an online book
IRC [17:23] <shemale_suprise> People asking you stuff when they can figure it out on thier own?
IRC [17:23] <shemale_suprise> What about a call in radio show for programming?
IRC [17:23] <Dossy> Do you really think /anyone/ would listen?
IRC [17:23] <shemale_suprise> (or hey do a chat in here)
IRC [17:23] <Dossy> People can't read, let alone pay attention.
IRC [17:23] <shemale_suprise> I would are you kidding?
IRC [17:24] <Dossy> I still meet people today (yes, in 2007 for crying out loud) who don't know what XML is.
IRC [17:24] <shemale_suprise> Marketing people?
IRC [17:24] <Dossy> For the love of God, has someone invented cryostasis?
IRC [17:24] <Dossy> No, technical people!@#!
IRC [17:25] <partymola> We need reinforcements! Someone's having a crisis!! :O
IRC [17:25] <shemale_suprise> Well I can speak for single people, and not many of us can think for 7 seconds without thinking of sex. It makes it hard to think about tek, I am of course an exception since its my hobby to read about free software.
IRC [17:25] <Dossy> partymola :)
IRC [17:25] <partymola> Dossy: you need true computer nerd friends :D
IRC [17:25] <Dossy> YES! I do.
IRC [17:26] <shemale_suprise> Do you work for AOL?
IRC [17:26] <Dossy> I need to find people who are into technology because they're passionate about it, not "because it's what I get paid to do"
IRC [17:26] <Dossy> I used to work for AOL.
IRC [17:26] <Dossy> Since November 2006, I no longer work for AOL.
IRC [17:26] <shemale_suprise> I am but I am not powerful.
IRC [17:26] <partymola> Dossy: here in spain ppl that work on it are somewhat passionate... because salary really sucks !!! XDDD
IRC [17:27] <shemale_suprise> What about starting your own consultantcy?
IRC [17:27] <Dossy> I started my own consultancy, but you run into the same problem ...
IRC [17:28] <shemale_suprise> You are doing kind of liek what I want to do.
IRC [17:28] <shemale_suprise> How about this, help me learn stuff and I'll do work for you.
IRC [17:28] <shemale_suprise> You bill clients 500/hr and clean up.
IRC [17:28] <shemale_suprise> win win
IRC [17:28] <partymola> i really think that working as a consultant sucks
IRC [17:28] <shemale_suprise> whys that
IRC [17:28] <partymola> and u can't live forever like that
IRC [17:29] <shemale_suprise> well idea is to hire otehr consultants under ones self
IRC [17:29] <shemale_suprise> isn't it?
IRC [17:29] <partymola> what u need is to start a several partners company and do products
IRC [17:29] <partymola> and sell products
IRC [17:29] <Dossy> because sometimes, you have clients that want crap work but are willing to pay really good money
IRC [17:29] <Dossy> yeah, labor-based businesses don't scale
IRC [17:29] <shemale_suprise> whats wrong with that?
IRC [17:29] <Dossy> you need a high-leverage business, selling and servicing a product
IRC [17:29] * Dossy sighs
IRC [17:29] <shemale_suprise> hm
IRC [17:29] <Dossy> and I have so little interest anymore
IRC [17:30] <shemale_suprise> check this out www.sugarcrm.com
IRC [17:30] <Dossy> Humanity has completely disappointed me.
IRC [17:30] <shemale_suprise> oh cmon
IRC [17:30] <shemale_suprise> humans jsut need bit of inspiration
IRC [17:30] <partymola> Sometimes that happens. But after some time, you'll be up and full of energy again.
IRC [17:30] <shemale_suprise> many people lvoe to work well and see things work but dont know how to go about it
IRC [17:30] <partymola> shemale_suprise: or drugs, or drugs xD
IRC [17:30] <shemale_suprise> no or sex!
IRC [17:30] <shemale_suprise> lol
IRC [17:30] <partymola> sex don't give energy to work xD
IRC [17:31] <Dossy> many people? where are they!
IRC [17:31] <partymola> in fact, it takes energy from work! XD
IRC [17:31] <Dossy> Most people "work" because they HAVE to.
IRC [17:31] <Dossy> As soon as their obligation is done, they stop and go do other stuff--drink, watch TV, waste their lives away.
IRC [17:32] <partymola> Dossy: 1-2 years ago there were "Summer & Winter Startup Schools" organised by YCombinator (Paul Graham's investment organisation). Aren't they being done nowadays?
IRC [17:32] <partymola> there you can meet people that work at computers because they love it :)
IRC [17:32] <partymola> really inspired and intelligent people :)
IRC [17:33] <partymola> and, btw, you need to read a inspiring book, Dossy
IRC [17:33] <partymola> I reccomend you: To Engineering Is Human
IRC [17:33] <partymola> and once you've more energy: The World Is Flat
IRC [17:33] <partymola> that'll help you to understand two things: engineering and current state of the world :)
IRC [17:33] <partymola> so you won't feel so lost
IRC [17:34] <partymola> and u'll be able to set new objectives to work at :)
IRC [17:36] <Dossy> Hmm.
IRC [17:36] <Dossy> aim, google for "To Engineering Is Human"
IRC [17:36] <Dossy> google for "To Engineering Is Human"
IRC [17:36] <Dossy> Hmm. No Amazon.com result.
IRC [17:37] <Dossy> Y Combinator is up in Massachusetts, a bit far from NJ.
IRC [17:37] <partymola> Sorry, To Engineer Is Human
IRC [17:38] <Dossy> google for "To Engineer Is Human"
IRC [17:39] <Dossy> Why do you recommend this book?
IRC [17:39] <Dossy> It seems almost more depressing than I already am.
IRC [17:40] <partymola> lol
IRC [17:41] <partymola> now, it shows you the human nature of engineering, and how to accept not perfect work
IRC [17:41] <partymola> ... because a fact is that nothing is perfect!
IRC [17:43] <partymola> that's a book to think
IRC [17:43] <Dossy> Hmm.
IRC [17:44] <tekbasse> in cases of existential crisis, you might want to look at "what am I doing here" by Ivy Oneita Duce
IRC [17:48] <Dossy> ISBN? google not returning Amazon link in top 20 :)
IRC [17:48] <partymola> lol
IRC [17:48] <partymola> it appears at #1 in google lol
IRC [17:48] <partymola> http://www.google.es/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FWhat-Am-I-Doing-Here%2Fdp%2F0140115773&ei=NBz3RfafE5vU-QLkpYi9AQ&usg=__rR6LXkKip-6t6EbD9hLFqsq4nh0=&sig2=1qHzpFnhfXoTke5ay3mfeg
IRC [17:48] <Dossy> not for me, weird
IRC [17:49] <partymola> oh, google.es XD
IRC [17:49] <Dossy> I get someone's blog as the first result
IRC [17:49] <Dossy> google for what am I doing here
IRC [17:49] <partymola> seems .es results are different from .com lol...
IRC [17:49] <Dossy> yeah
IRC [17:49] <Dossy> Bruce Chatwin? not Ivy Duce.
IRC [17:50] <Dossy> let me try google.es
IRC [17:51] <Dossy> no, that amazon result isn't authored by Ivy O. Duce ... ?
IRC [17:51] <partymola> maybe tekbasse is wrong xD
IRC [17:51] * Dossy shrugs.
IRC [17:52] <tekbasse> lol.. its been in print for a long time, a small book. I'm looking for a link with description... more than just purchase info
IRC [17:52] <partymola> http://www.amazon.com/What-am-I-doing-here/dp/B0007EQF30/ref=sr_1_4/104-6672423-3336738?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173822750&sr=1-4
IRC [17:53] <partymola> # Unknown Binding: 59 pages
IRC [17:53] <partymola> # Publisher: Sufism Reoriented (1966)
IRC [17:53] <partymola> lol...
IRC [17:54] <tekbasse> guess that gives away my age somewhat =)
IRC [17:54] <partymola> :D
IRC [17:57] <Dossy> heh
IRC [17:57] <Dossy> Indeed, it'll be hard to read a book I can't obtain ...
IRC [17:57] <Dossy> You want to scan it and email me a PDF? :)
IRC [17:59] <tekbasse> =) maybe google books already did...
IRC [18:02] <Dossy> nope.
IRC [18:02] <Dossy> just checked.
IRC [18:04] <tekbasse> yeah.. too bad.. I'm looking for a good second one..
IRC [18:04] <tekbasse> ..alternate
IRC [18:06] <Dossy> Okay, time to go eat dinner with the family. BBL.
IRC [18:06] <tekbasse> this one is a much larger book, but deals with same kinda crisis from another perspective: http://ambppct.org/meherbaba/Book_Files/LISTEN, HUMANITY.pdf
IRC [18:06] <tekbasse> why do they put a space in a url?
IRC [18:07] <tekbasse> =/
IRC [18:07] <tekbasse> Don Stevens was a mentor of sorts of Ivy Duce
IRC [18:08] <tekbasse> er.. Ivy Duce was his mentor
IRC [18:08] * tekbasse goes back to work..
IRC [18:09] <tekbasse> here's the link to that link... http://ambppct.org/meherbaba/BooksByMeherBaba.php#5 "Listen Humanity"
IRC [18:09] <tekbasse> anyway.. *now* I'm going back to work.
IRC [18:10] <tekbasse> bbl
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IRC [18:22] <partymola> ouch :)
IRC [18:56] <shemale_suprise> shemale_suprise: My friends say I try to hard with women and am too nice.
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IRC [18:56] <shemale_suprise> shemale_suprise: They also say I eat too much.
IRC [18:56] <shemale_suprise> shemale_suprise: One guys says I should go vegetarian.
IRC [18:56] <shemale_suprise> Dossy plt scheme has its own webserver now
IRC [18:56] <shemale_suprise> tink about it
IRC [19:01] <partymola> lol?
IRC [19:04] <shemale_suprise> hm
IRC [19:04] <shemale_suprise> content is king?
IRC [19:04] <shemale_suprise> hmmmm
IRC [19:04] <shemale_suprise> porn is king!
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IRC [19:15] <Dossy> ?
IRC [19:15] * Dossy is reading the "Listen, Humanity" text.
IRC [19:50] <dreamgirl_pakin> what in hek is that?
IRC [19:51] <dreamgirl_pakin> Dossy don't be down on fellow humans we aren't getting as much actions as you.
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IRC [21:03] <Dossy> Thanks for listening to me today.
IRC [21:03] <Dossy> I apologize for being in such a foul mood; I hope it passes soon.
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