2007/06/07
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IRC [07:05] <partymola> hi! :)
IRC [07:41] <Dossy> so, what are you selling?
IRC [08:08] <partymola> www.simpleoption.com
IRC [08:08] <partymola> several long-tail items
IRC [08:09] <partymola> we're trying to position ourselves in the spanish market
IRC [08:09] <partymola> we added some products to see the reaction of web crawlers, and to see which positions we could get
IRC [08:09] <partymola> and the awesome result is that we're getting the 1st positions easily, and that we've even got a customer, given that ordering system simply sucks
IRC [08:10] <partymola> cuz we've no shopping cart nor everything else, but a e-mail address or a telephone number for orders lol
IRC [08:14] <partymola> thinks are going quite better than expected
IRC [08:15] <partymola> we're moving to a new house next month, and we'll live & work there all together... with dedicated Internet line & such... so I think it all's gonna go perfect... thanks in part to AOLserver ;)
IRC [08:17] <Dossy> awesome!
IRC [08:18] <Dossy> The site looks nice.
IRC [08:19] <Dossy> Who's the designer?
IRC [08:20] <Dossy> Search isn't working yet?
IRC [09:22] <partymola> nope, search's not working yet
IRC [09:22] <partymola> it's 1.0 version
IRC [09:22] <partymola> we're working on 1.5 branch atm
IRC [09:22] <partymola> it was some big style changes
IRC [09:22] <partymola> uses a new templating system, etc.
IRC [09:22] <partymola> (and it looks nice on my palm lol)
IRC [09:23] <partymola> well, one of us has been focusing on design
IRC [09:23] <partymola> she's become quite good on it -considering that we have not big needs actually
IRC [09:28] <Dossy> well, that's great :) when you're ready to launch, let me know :)
IRC [09:30] <partymola> we'll build up from this
IRC [09:31] <Dossy> definitely looks like a great start
IRC [09:31] <partymola> so... can we consider we've launched already? lol
IRC [09:31] <partymola> now we're working on ordering system, expanding products (to several hundredes), and marketing
IRC [09:42] <partymola> geez, the are lots of things to do, and very few time for each one, it's like slicing ur time into 5 times more slices than usual
IRC [09:50] <Dossy> :)
IRC [09:51] <Dossy> well, I'll be happy to blog about simpleoption.com once you're ready to take orders :)
IRC [09:51] <partymola> :O
IRC [09:51] <Dossy> are you doing your own fulfillment?
IRC [09:51] <partymola> no, we plan to write about it soon
IRC [09:51] <partymola> together with some economic notes
IRC [09:51] <Dossy> cool
IRC [09:51] <partymola> you know... nodie is studying business administration atm
IRC [09:51] <partymola> so he can give economic notes
IRC [09:51] <Dossy> that's great :)
IRC [09:52] <partymola> atm we're working on a tcl/tk program that gets visits from the DB and paints a graph of how pages were retrieved
IRC [09:56] <Dossy> nice
IRC [10:02] <partymola> http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/17912/2000816329084076061_rs.jpg
IRC [10:02] <partymola> dirty prototype... but it works lol
IRC [10:07] <Dossy> that's neat
IRC [10:07] <Dossy> you should use Tile so you get better looking widgets :)
IRC [10:07] <partymola> you know we're rude men & women
IRC [10:07] <partymola> we like sharp edges
IRC [10:08] <Dossy> haha
IRC [10:08] <Dossy> :)
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IRC [10:09] <Dossy> hi ian.
IRC [10:09] <ian__> Hi!
IRC [10:09] <partymola> hi ian__ :)
IRC [10:09] <ian__> Hello.
IRC [10:10] <partymola> shower's calling me... cya later :)
IRC [10:14] <Dossy> bye partymola :)
IRC [10:14] <Dossy> How's everything going, Ian?
IRC [10:14] <Dossy> brb--smoke.
IRC [10:14] <ian__> Pretty good, new job and all
IRC [10:41] <Dossy> new job? where are you now?
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IRC [11:07] <partymola> hi again
IRC [11:53] <ian__> nstelemetry.adp crashes my server with signal 11 the first time I access it. Anyone else seen this? I know it's just a symptom of another prob...
IRC [12:03] <Dossy> what version?
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IRC [12:13] <Dossy> Ian: What version of AOLserver?
IRC [12:36] <ian__> 4.5
IRC [12:49] <Dossy> Hmm--from CVS?
IRC [12:52] <ian__> Nope. tarball
IRC [13:00] <Dossy> yeah, there were some late bugs fixed in CVS HEAD --
IRC [13:00] <Dossy> try that first
IRC [13:01] <Dossy> (yes, I know--I still haven't gotten 4.0.11 and 4.5.1 released--ugh)
IRC [13:22] <frankie> Dossy: any reason to have 4.0 still around?
IRC [13:31] <Dossy> frankie: Until we get some decent documentation around the new ns_pools and ns_limits stuff in 4.5, probably.
IRC [13:49] <ian__> +1
IRC [13:51] <Dossy> :)
IRC [13:51] <Dossy> so, Ian, are you still doing AOLserver at your new gig?
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IRC [14:34] <hagna> what's the tag to strip out bad things like paros%22+style%3D%22background%3Aurl%28javascript%3Aalert%28%27Paros%27%29%29 from variable ns_striphtml doesn't do it
IRC [14:34] <hagna> s/tag/proc/
IRC [14:39] <ian__> Dossy: Yes. Aolserver and PostgreSQL, it's like I never left!
IRC [14:40] <_justQ> Hi guys, I'm trying to compile nsjava for Aolserver 4.1.0 but I'm getting some compilation errors
IRC [14:40] <_justQ> have you ever used nsjava ?
IRC [15:00] <Dossy> hagna: depends on what you're trying to sanitize--you'll probably have to write it yourself, one or a few regexp's
IRC [15:00] <Dossy> justQ: nsjava? no.
IRC [15:00] <Dossy> what compilation errors are you getting?
IRC [15:03] <_justQ> I got a lot of these ones:
IRC [15:03] <_justQ> debian:/usr/local/src/aolserver-4.0.10/nsjava-1.0.5# make
IRC [15:03] <_justQ> building "java"
IRC [15:03] <_justQ> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/aolserver-4.0.10/nsjava-1.0.5/java'
IRC [15:03] <_justQ> /usr/local/src/jdk1.6.0_01//bin/javac -g -classpath :/usr/local/src/aolserver-4.0.10/nsjava-1.0.5/java ../java/nsjava/internal/Interp.java
IRC [15:03] <_justQ> ./nsjava/internal/Commands.java:629: as of release 5, 'enum' is a keyword, and may not be used as an identifier
IRC [15:03] <_justQ> (use -source 1.4 or lower to use 'enum' as an identifier)
IRC [15:03] <_justQ> Enumeration enum;
IRC [15:03] <_justQ>
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IRC [15:03] <_justQ> and the last lines are:
IRC [15:04] <_justQ> Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations.
IRC [15:04] <_justQ> Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
IRC [15:04] <_justQ> 7 errors
IRC [15:04] <_justQ> make[1]: *** [Interp.class] Error 1
IRC [15:04] <_justQ> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/aolserver-4.0.10/nsjava-1.0.5/java'
IRC [15:04] <_justQ> make: *** [all] Error 1
IRC [15:04] <_justQ> debian:/usr/local/src/aolserver-4.0.10/nsjava-1.0.5#
IRC [15:10] <Dossy> edit java/Makefile
IRC [15:10] <Dossy> around line 12, search for $(JAVAC)
IRC [15:10] <Dossy> and replace that with: $(JAVAC) -source 1.4
IRC [15:10] <_justQ> aha
IRC [15:11] <_justQ> ok
IRC [15:13] <_justQ> it is doing something with loads of warnings
IRC [15:14] <Dossy> yeah.
IRC [15:16] <_justQ> I got it!
IRC [15:16] <_justQ> libnsjava.so
IRC [15:16] <_justQ> Yaaaay =o) !!!!
IRC [15:17] <_justQ> now, let me try it loads and works propertly ;)
IRC [15:19] <partymola> lol! someone is building a tool for the lang of the devil! :O
IRC [15:20] <Dossy> :)
IRC [15:20] <Dossy> if it works, that'll be cool
IRC [15:20] <Dossy> someone should pick up maintenance of it and update it for Java 5
IRC [15:21] * partymola has to read AOLServer doc... didn't know there was a striphtml function LOL
IRC [15:29] <_justQ> after finish this job I could try, aparently Dan (author) is up to help with any improvement and update to this module
IRC [15:29] <_justQ> do you have any idea whay I got this: [07/Jun/2007:20:26:57][20253.3083745504][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr/local/aolserver/bin/libnsjava.so'
IRC [15:29] <_justQ> [07/Jun/2007:20:26:57][20253.3083745504][-main-] Warning: modload: could not load /usr/local/aolserver/bin/libnsjava.so: /usr/local/aolserver
IRC [15:29] <_justQ> /bin/libnsjava.so: undefined symbol: NsTclDbCmd
IRC [15:29] <_justQ> [07/Jun/2007:20:26:57][20253.3083745504][-main-] Fatal: modload: failed to load module '/usr/local/aolserver/bin/libnsjava.so'
IRC [15:38] <_justQ> I think there a link missing ... when compiling it
IRC [15:38] <_justQ> I will try to use JDK 1.2 instead
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IRC [18:43] <Dossy> justQ: I believe nsjava is intended for AOLserver 3.x ... the functions in AOLserver 4.x changed slightly.
IRC [18:43] <Dossy> What do you want to do with nsjava? Perhaps if someone seriously intends on using it, I'll take the time to update it.
IRC [19:21] <_justQ> well, I was just trying to play a bit with java applications such as Jfreechart
IRC [19:22] <_justQ> and I read in oacs forums that it worked very well
IRC [19:22] <_justQ> but they had a hard time compiling everything
IRC [19:24] <Dossy> ahh.
IRC [19:31] <_justQ> there are some package that have java applets using aolserver sockets and other stuff that I've just found but I'll take a look tomorrow and let you know what will be the end of my story =)
IRC [19:31] <_justQ> thanks a lot for your help Dossy =), you are a legend ;)..
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IRC [19:46] <partymola> lol
IRC [19:46] <partymola> legend are dead ppl!
IRC [19:46] <partymola> Dossy is not dead ;(
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IRC [22:42] <Dossy> heh, not yet anyway.
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