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Note: This is a primordial set of notes. I have yet to begin any kind of reply.
Starting with DonExodus2's stuff on Youtube.
Neanderthal Mitochondrial DNA(Edit)
- Supposedly had music, art, etc.
- DNA sequence shows not-human
- x Neanderthal-time modern teeth in Asia
- x Present in current genome
Chromosomal Fusion(Edit)
- Humans, 23 pairs; Primates, 24 pairs
- ∴ fused
- Telomeres @ ends of chromosomes fuse two chromosomes together, yielding a pair of centromeres (one inactive)
- Chromosome #2 is fused 114455823 to 114455848
- Telomeric duplication
- x "Casey Luskin" rebuttal
Endogenous Retroviral DNA (E.R.V.)(Edit)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fGkFuHIu0#t=8m
- Virus deactivated, integrated into sperm DNA (which is then passed on)
- 4% of human DNA is viral DNA (human genome = 3 billion base-pairs long)
- "Independent validation of the phylo-genetic tree of evolution"
Summation(Edit)
- Evolutionary Ecology
- Paleontology
- Comparative Anatomy,
- Comparing, e.g.,
- brains of: parrots, hummingbirds, songbirds, humans ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CvX_mD5weM#t=4m09s )
- Bones of human, cat, whale, horse, etc. appendages
- Subtle variations of BMP4 affect (Wait, doesn't this simply demonstrate an interesting thing about creation?)
Embryology(Edit)
- Organisms passing through stages characteristic of predecessors, e.g.:
- Humans having gill slits, tail
- Won't find non-mammalian that has nipples during development
- 'Wiki "protostome" or "cleavage embryo" and go from there.'
- Developmental Genetics
- pubmed.com - Nucleotide sequences
http://img227.imageshack.us/i/phylogenictreetf8.jpg/
- Metabolic "field guide"
- 16S typing, Jaccard's coefficient
- Mutation Studies
- Transmission Genetics,
- Population & Quantitative Genetics
- Fossil record
- Predicts that we will never find a poodle from the Permian layer
- Simpler lifeforms at lower strata, more complex at higher
- Strata vs. Relative depth (something creationists often confuse)
- Pangaea + fossil pattern
- "Will never find a complex mammal fossil on an island, because the continents broke up before mammals evolved"
- x http://creation.com/genesis-and-haeckel
- DonExodus2 replies - Basically, that Haeckel was drawing "caricatures"
Geology(Edit)
- Strata
- x Creation-Evolution "Encyclopedia" on Fossils/Strata - Sketchy, but not bad starting point (especially its 19 problems page)
Fossil Records(Edit)
- There are certain characteristics which are only found in mammals, for example: Mammary glands, Hair, Warm-blooded, Nipples, Placental Young. ... Pelage, Ears, Diaphragm, ...etc. Obviously 100% taken from here.
- Same goes for reptiles, birds, etc.
- To disprove evolution: Find a mammal with feathers, or a reptile with nipples (even if just during development)
- The Beloved Phylogenetic Tree
- Identical Tree Confirmed in Fossil Record
- Osteolepiforms -> Lungfish -> Ichtyostega
- Eusthenopteron
- Fish-like, but with characteristics only in tetrapods: Internal nostrils, labyrithodont teeth, two-part cranium, intracranial joint)
- Begin to see development of distinct arm and leg bones (humerus, ulna, radius; tibia femur fibula)
- Panderichthys
- Still fish-like, but now beginning to see tetrapod head develop
- Also had pelvic girdle (instrumental in supporting the developing limbs), spiracles on top of head (breathing tubes -- allowed it to breathe while submerged in mud)
- Beloved Tiktaalik
- Fins have basic wrist bones and simple fingers, showing that they were weight-bearing
- Fish: gills, scales
- Fishapod: half-fish, half-tetrapod limb bones and joints (including functional wrist joint and radiating fish-like fins instead of toes), ear region
- Tetrapod: rib bones, mobile neck, lungs
- Says Jonathan Sarfati fails to rebut (@4m36s)
- Icthyostega
- Skeletal modifications: loss of posttemporal and supracleithral bones from pectoral girdle; enlargement of scapulocoracoid; new bones (pubis, ischia, ilia) in pelvic girdle; articulating surfaces on neural arches; rib cage and sternum
- Fish-like: lateral line system, notochord, gills, finned tail
- Temnospondyls (other fish->amphibians)
- Eryops and Cacops
- Branchiosaurus
- Anthracosaus - Ancestral line to the reptiles (includes Diadectes)
- Plus: Cheirolepis, Osteolepis, Eusthenopteron (and other rhipidistian crossopterygian fish), Icthyostega [Wait---he did elaborate on that.], Ichtyostegopsis, Pholidogaster, Pteroplax, ...
- Amphibian -> Reptiles. Need to develop: Amniotic Egg, Ability to convert ammonia -> Urea, Waterproof skin, Lungs inflated by expansion of the rib cage, Partial septum in the ventricle
- Find a single amniote without one of these to disprove evolution: Premaxilla with palatal, maxillary & nasal processes; frontal contacts orbit; various patterns of fenestration related to additional musculature for jaw from dermal skull ...etc, obviously taken from here.
- Seymouria - Classic labyrinthodont skull and teeth, with reptilian vertebrae, pelvis, humerus, and digits; amphibian-like (labeled on creationism.org as a dragon).
- Hylonomus, Limnoscelis - Slightly amphibian skull (e.g., with amphibian pineal opening), with rest of skeleton classically reptilian.
- Cotylosaurs - Gave rise to many reptile groups of tremendous variety (transitions to anapsid reptiles, euryapsid reptiles, or the lepidosaurs (turtles, plesiosaurs, lizards/snakes))
- Synapsid reptiles - Gave rise to mammals and archosaur reptiles (which gave rise to birds)
- Sophomoric taunting
Argument by Education Statistics(Edit)
Atavisms(Edit)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K11knFKqW4s
- Mammals, birds can re-display reptile properties, but mammals-birds never cross over + predicting (e.g., never find a half-bird, half-mammal)
- tails, extra nipples
Transitional Fossils:(Edit)
- Whales/Dolphins
- "From 4-legged land mammals"
- Nostrils moving up toward top
- Inner ear transitioning from land-tuned to water-tuned
- Hind-legs/Fins devolving/evolving
- Echolocation
Stuff to Think about(Edit)
"Evolution's Hall of Shame" - Some goofy stuff, but some potent stuff.
Johnathan Safarti (part 1) - http://creation.com - Ark feasibility; natural selection = narrowing more than widening
Johnathan Safarti (part 2) - Mutations are very predominantly bad; circularity of "scientists are common-ancestor evolutionists"; various philosophical single-shot Q/A